{"author_link":"\/author\/cybearg\/","author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","comments":[{"author_name":"martijn","author_uid":"20699","time":"Apr 28, 2013 @ 9:31pm","epoch":1367184360,"text":"Holy crap, are you the guy on twitch that was programming his game on an actual atari.\r\reither way, this is a pretty fun game. I found myself constantly using ping and not really getting any score.\r\rAlso sometimes when I ping, the bird moves forward. Is this by design?"},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 28, 2013 @ 10:10pm","epoch":1367186700,"text":"I don't know how exactly to reply to comments, so I'll just awkwardly comment on my own thing...\r\rNope, that's someone else, though I did program this FOR the Atari. I don't know how you'd program ON an Atari 2600. Maybe using an Atari 800 computer? That wasn't me, though.\r\rBy the bird, I assume you mean the owls and not the player (since you're playing as a bat). In either case, no, the ping isn't programmed to move anything. Perhaps it looks tricky because the owls, bugs, etc. all move in the dark and you can only see them with a ping."},{"author_name":"CagedRat","author_uid":"557","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 3:26am","epoch":1367205660,"text":"Love it! One of the best Atari 2600 games I've played."},{"author_name":"skwirl3014","author_uid":"23241","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 4:58am","epoch":1367211180,"text":"Wow, an actual rom! How exciting"},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 5:02am","epoch":1367211420,"text":"To those two would like to play but don't want to download an emulator, try JavAtari, which allows you to emulate the game online: http:\/\/javatari.org\/online.html\r\rSadly, I wasn't aware of it when I made this post."},{"author_name":"danblack","author_uid":"818","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 6:09am","epoch":1367215440,"text":"Nice game and really nice touch making a Rom. I also didn't pay much attention to the score though. Personally I would have liked to have seen a slightly different play structure. For example hitting anything taking you back to the start of the level (with infinite retries) but having only limited 'pings' per level to make it more of a challenge. Really nice game though. Well played sir."},{"author_name":"Filth and Money","author_uid":"23016","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 6:19am","epoch":1367216040,"text":"Downloading the ROM isn't working for me =("},{"author_name":"martijn","author_uid":"20699","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 7:39am","epoch":1367220840,"text":"Anyways Great game"},{"author_name":"ButtercupSaiyan","author_uid":"4948","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 8:30am","epoch":1367223900,"text":"It is, you can't really help what you get famous for, sadly, and people LOVE to judge you or put you down for what you do... it sucks. And I need to play this, I need to play so many games, lol. I'll have to make a special hour of the day to get through it."},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 8:38am","epoch":1367224380,"text":"@ButtercupSaiyan: Sorry to hear. Maybe make another screenname to do other stuff with so things won't follow you around.\r\r@Filth and Money: Try the mirrored link. I had someone else say they couldn't download any file called "ping" for whatever reason, so I put the bin in a zip. Maybe it'll work better.\r\r@danblack: Setting the player back to the start of the level is kind of arbitrary, since the levels are randomized from a set of 16 + a random roll for spawns, so putting them back is the same as letting them continue on, except for their inability to gain further points (which, in your case, don't matter anyway). Plus I worry that it would be too frustrating.\r\rI had considered allowing only a certain number of pings per screen but rejected it because I was afraid that the player being stuck in the dark with no pings left would be a dick move on my part. Still, it may be something worth trying out in a future revision of the ROM. Perhaps give points for how many pings the player has remaining once they reach the end of the stage, rather than basing them on their progress? I like the idea."},{"author_name":"danblack","author_uid":"818","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 9:45am","epoch":1367228400,"text":"I didn't realise the levels were random. Yeah that idea only works if you are making progress, which would also be nice. \r\rAs for limiting pings I wouldn't worry about stranding a player in the dark. Maybe you could band the levels. 3 stars if you use < 3 pings, 2 stars for < 5, 1 star for < 7. So there is a limit but a pretty easy one and still an incentive to use less. \r\rI hope you take the concept further. It really nice already and got loads of potential."},{"author_name":"josefnpat","author_uid":"11249","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 11:30am","epoch":1367234700,"text":"I downloaded and built stella from source to try to play this game, but all I got was some purple curtians, and then it locked up.\r\rI then installed a java7 plugin to use the website you mentioned, and I got this: http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/LfIdX00.png\r\r*Sigh* Perhaps you can post a video? That'd be super cool."},{"author_name":"Clavus","author_uid":"18043","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 12:09pm","epoch":1367237040,"text":"Great little game :)"},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 12:53pm","epoch":1367239680,"text":"@josefnpat Why did you need to compile? I think that there are compiled binaries for most systems available for Stella: http:\/\/stella.sourceforge.net\/downloads.php - Unless you're using some version of Linux that is incompatible?\r\rHere is a video briefly showing some gameplay: http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4o2WSCxtwIk\r\r@danblack It's certainly something I'll consider. Your star rating idea would probably need to be converted into a score since the nice thing about a score is that is can be easily quantified. If I get three stars on one room, two on another, and three on the next one, how exactly can the cumulative progress be saved? Displaying all those stars on screen in some kind of star-based total score is not practical on the Atari 2600, sadly.\r\rAs for the randomized levels, I'm pleased that you weren't able to notice that they were looping. Yes, progress would be nice, and maybe that can be done in a later version. For now, though, I had limited time and limited space (4kilobytes). The ROM is filled up to within 40 bytes of the 4kb limit, so there will need to be some reworking in order to build it so that more can fit in."},{"author_name":"Xeke_Death","author_uid":"19338","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 3:55pm","epoch":1367250600,"text":"I got just over 500 points! I managed most rooms with one or two pings. I noticed that I could still use my echo location even if I had less than 25 points, and I never went below 0. Would be handy if I was going for distance, but what is the point of distance if you don't have the points to show for it?"},{"author_name":"Brassawiking","author_uid":"13137","time":"Apr 29, 2013 @ 6:10pm","epoch":1367258700,"text":"This just strikes me, that if you had made this back in the days, it would probably have been a real powerhit among gamers. Great job!"},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 2:00am","epoch":1367286900,"text":"@danblack Try ROM v1.2 a try. you may find it more to your liking!"},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 2:26am","epoch":1367288460,"text":"To clarify the above, those curious to see advancements to the game can check out the AtariAge link above, but remember that only the version I posted originally is valid for voting, so please only vote on the original ROM in the first link on this page."},{"author_name":"nintendoeats","author_uid":"22819","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 4:56am","epoch":1367297460,"text":"Now hold on a second...Warren Robinett spent a month giving Adventure multiple rooms. Are you sure that you didn't write any code beforehand :P\r\rIt is awesome that you made this. It's also actually a pretty good game. I feel like any other comments I might have about it would be pointless."},{"author_name":"Gremlin","author_uid":"12047","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 5:01am","epoch":1367297760,"text":"I can't seem to get the original ROM to run. The second version works in the emulator without a problem, but the first seems to have issues (just shows up as random purple lines). I'm on Windows running the Stella emulator, though the Java one gives me the same issues."},{"author_name":"john_conder9","author_uid":"12682","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 5:02am","epoch":1367297820,"text":"I liked it but I have to say it was quite a challenge! I'm not so good at this type of memory lol, so my score never really got over 100. Awesome concept though, playing as a bat and using echo-location to navigate is something I never thought I'd be doing today."},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 5:47am","epoch":1367300520,"text":"@Gremlin I've never encountered that issue... Well, if you can't get the first version to work, then consider that second version to be a bugfixed version and rate it, instead. It was made within the allotted time for bug fixes, anyway.\r\r@nintendoeats I had some great tools with the vBb IDE for batari basic (http:\/\/atariage.com\/forums\/topic\/123849-visual-bb-1-0-a-new-ide-for-batari-basic\/) that allowed me to create the maps in a quick, point-and-click program, rather than typing them out one bit at a time.\r\rThanks to all for the kind words! I'm glad that folks are enjoying my humble contribution. :)"},{"author_name":"biscuitdough","author_uid":"4177","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 7:11am","epoch":1367305560,"text":"Cool in concept, points for just being on the 2600."},{"author_name":"timtimtimtim","author_uid":"13136","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 7:12am","epoch":1367305620,"text":"fun execution of theme. i loved the score-based incentive for using few pings. i would have liked it better if the rooms weren't randomized and progress was saved after death, though"},{"author_name":"PiotGuy","author_uid":"21792","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 8:26am","epoch":1367310060,"text":"Cool and very innovative, I really like it !"},{"author_name":"ashdnazg","author_uid":"21623","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 2:04pm","epoch":1367330340,"text":"It's an absolutely wonderful game mechanic!"},{"author_name":"MinionStudios","author_uid":"22273","time":"Apr 30, 2013 @ 11:55pm","epoch":1367365800,"text":"Great game. Really fun and a little tough. Wish it was a cartridge"},{"author_name":"Osgeld","author_uid":"828","time":"May 1, 2013 @ 3:13am","epoch":1367377680,"text":"good 2600 title, could have been a retail game back in the day"},{"author_name":"TenTonToon","author_uid":"11273","time":"May 1, 2013 @ 6:01am","epoch":1367387760,"text":"Awesome! The fact that it's actually an Atari 2600 game is mind-blowing to boot, but it stands on its own merits as a real fun game, with a great main mechanic, and also fits the theme to a t.\rHands down, one of my favourite games of this LD! :D\r\rNow, maybe you could contact the guys from RGCD to make some physical copies of this game? :) If you do, save one for me!\r\rCongratulations! :)"},{"author_name":"Demurgos","author_uid":"12860","time":"May 1, 2013 @ 7:29pm","epoch":1367436240,"text":"That's impressive how you coded this game for Atari. It's well rendered and nice. Although it become a bit repetitive, I love the concept.\r\rSo bad there's no PM system (or I don't know how to use it) but you leaved a comment on this game : http:\/\/www.ludumdare.com\/compo\/ludum-dare-26\/?action=preview&uid=15080\rYou told that controls are clumsy and unintuitive, can you explain why you feel that ? Because I simply coded the movement following a grid like on most of puzzle games, up to go up, right to go right and so on. You're not the first commenting this way and I'd like to understand what's really the problem to improve it."},{"author_name":"berkano","author_uid":"11027","time":"May 1, 2013 @ 7:51pm","epoch":1367437560,"text":"I'm blown away... really creative idea in a 4k atari rom... minimalism to the max!"},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"May 1, 2013 @ 7:52pm","epoch":1367437620,"text":"Sorry, I was mistaken, Demurgos. I think that fewer people would get confused if you listed the arrow keys first at the primary method of movement. I read the QZAD keys as being the movement controls and was trying to move around with that, which was very clumsy."},{"author_name":"SmilingCat","author_uid":"21630","time":"May 1, 2013 @ 10:32pm","epoch":1367447220,"text":"Wow, knowing what I know of programming the 2600 hardware, this is no small feat to have done this from scratch in 48 hours.\r\rOn top of that, it is actually a really cool game concept and well executed at all levels.\r\rAmazing."},{"author_name":"rzfmzn","author_uid":"4736","time":"May 2, 2013 @ 2:38am","epoch":1367461980,"text":"Dude, fantastic! =OD\r(and its not awkward to answer to people) =OP"},{"author_name":"Jyrkface","author_uid":"20894","time":"May 2, 2013 @ 5:04am","epoch":1367470740,"text":"Fantastic game! Really enjoyed the authenticity of the retro feel. Definitely feels different from just using atari 2600 samples and old graphics, and, given the theme, I thought presentation was damn near perfect on all fronts."},{"author_name":"Tyro","author_uid":"12708","time":"May 2, 2013 @ 5:16am","epoch":1367471460,"text":"This is superb! Colliding with the wall always felt like it was genuinely the player's fault, rather than being the result of wonky code. The sound effects were fitting and the visuals simple yet well pieced together. Finally, I liked how using the echolocation was entirely optional, allowing a more skilled player to stay shrouded in darkness longer.\r\rOne of the best LD games I've played of late. Give it a try, peeps."},{"author_name":"Jorjon","author_uid":"5268","time":"May 3, 2013 @ 7:22am","epoch":1367565420,"text":"Impressive! Really good job!!"},{"author_name":"Spiridios","author_uid":"1158","time":"May 3, 2013 @ 5:50pm","epoch":1367603100,"text":"Would have liked another mechanic rather than health, but over all really liked the game. The fact that it's on an Atari is just cool."},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"May 3, 2013 @ 10:49pm","epoch":1367621040,"text":"@Spiridios What did you have in mind?"},{"author_name":"Test User","author_uid":"15303","time":"May 5, 2013 @ 5:37am","epoch":1367731920,"text":"Nice atari game!"},{"author_name":"pvwradtke","author_uid":"3728","time":"May 5, 2013 @ 6:53am","epoch":1367736480,"text":"Great, I wish more Atari games were this good back then. Loved the sonar idea and the graphics are just what I'd expect from an old time Atari game. If there's a drawback, is that the sonar usage could be a bit more restricted, with a wait time between each ping. Other than that, great game."},{"author_name":"ohsqueezy","author_uid":"10718","time":"May 5, 2013 @ 1:32pm","epoch":1367760420,"text":"I like the the score system, using the distance traveled without using ping. It lets players choose their own level of difficulty and integrates risk\/reward into the basic controls. :D"},{"author_name":"Tiago Ling Alexandre","author_uid":"10988","time":"May 8, 2013 @ 2:22pm","epoch":1368022620,"text":"Wow, very cool game! Reminded me of my childhood! \r\rThe game has many screens, the pacing is very nice and the difficulty curve is not steep (i lost my first life only after 10-15 screens). The fact it is a rom for Atari make this game as minimalist as it can be! \r\rOverall, a very fun and enjoyable experience, awesome work! Congratulations!"},{"author_name":"SnoringFrog","author_uid":"20952","time":"May 9, 2013 @ 10:07am","epoch":1368093720,"text":"Cool idea, even cooler that it was made as an Atari 2600 ROM. Managed to get a top score of almost 1200 before I decided to call it quits."},{"author_name":"Hume","author_uid":"11218","time":"May 10, 2013 @ 12:42am","epoch":1368146220,"text":"Hey, you played UltraPew as "Play Ping on LD", so I did...sorry there was nobody on the server at the time ;)\r\rI'm really impressed. It works, it's playable. I did have an input issue with the Java emulator but it was clearly not YOUR issue.\r\rReally excited about your dev journal too -- I spent most of LD dealing with technical issues too, but you made a point of posting progress. Fascinating read, much appreciated."},{"author_name":"Cybearg","author_uid":"22470","time":"May 10, 2013 @ 2:12am","epoch":1368151620,"text":"@Hume The dev journal was actually kind of fun.\r\rHaha, it's cool that my little bit of self-promotion paid off there. Thanks!"},{"author_name":"fermcg","author_uid":"22219","time":"May 11, 2013 @ 12:17am","epoch":1368231120,"text":"Saw this on the video compilation and thought "Cool... the guy made something Atari Style"... Paused and searched for it...\r\rIt's actually an Atari ROM!!!!"},{"author_name":"Spiridios","author_uid":"1158","time":"May 16, 2013 @ 7:54pm","epoch":1368733740,"text":"@Cybearg It felt a little overly punishing, but then a lot of Atari games were like that. I played it again to give a better answer to your question.... And I'm not exactly sure what I was thinking for a different mechanic (the problem with checking back 13 days after leaving a comment). Perhaps some kind of score modifier\/subtractor for hitting walls (though pinging already does this)."},{"author_name":"ArtWithoutPrediction","author_uid":"4948","time":"May 28, 2013 @ 3:57pm","epoch":1369756320,"text":"The pixelart is really nice."}],"images":["ld26\/22470-b4b06b37ac5230195c6be2b105d36164.jpg","ld26\/22470-61507af85ca30b49cbd675d572d23aae.jpg","ld26\/22470-3d790858af8b644058d34bda1f481bb6.jpg"],"links":[{"url":"http:\/\/atariage.com\/forums\/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=288476","text":"ROM"},{"url":"http:\/\/javatari.org\/online.html","text":"Online Emulator (JavAtari)"},{"url":"http:\/\/atariage.com\/forums\/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=288477","text":"Source"},{"url":"http:\/\/atariage.com\/forums\/topic\/211755-ping-a-batty-adventure-2600\/","text":"AtariAge"},{"url":"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4o2WSCxtwIk","text":"Video"}],"metadata":{"g_key":"26728","g_author":"22470","g_event":"LD26","g_eventkey":"16","g_subevent":"COMPO","g_urlkey":"26758","g_title":"Ping","g_status":"UCHK1","g_place":"176","g_commentcount":"49","g_site2_node_id":"0","g_hide":"N","g_has_icon":"Y","g_rqueue":"0","g_random":"0"},"nds":[],"node":null,"orig_images":["http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/233892\/22470-shot0.png-eq-900-500.jpg","http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/233892\/22470-shot1.png-eq-900-500.jpg","http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/233892\/22470-shot2.png-eq-900-500.jpg"],"text":"Video (for those who can't play): http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4o2WSCxtwIk\r\n\r\nPlay as a little bat named Ping. Guide her through dark caves using echolocation, finding tasty bugs and avoiding dangerous owls and painful crashes.\r\n\r\nThe game will require an Atari 2600 emulator like Stella to work.\r\n\r\nEDIT: Try JavAtari (link above) to play the ROM online rather than having to download Stella.\r\n\r\nPress spacebar to use echolocation and move using the arrow keys. Using echolocation costs 25 points. Points can be gained by making progress to the right and by eating bugs. Avoid owls and walls or you will lose a life. Try to navigate using as few echolocation pings as possible in order to maximize score.<\/p>","title":"Ping"}