Those Pesky Rogues by CoffeeOnimal

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made by CoffeeOnimal for LD25 (COMPO)
A reverse Rogue-Like, you must stop an Adventurer from infiltrating your Dungeon!

Made in Unity using iTween, NGUI and my Skeletor frame-work.

Control the view-port with Arrow Keys or WASD to find the Rogue. Click on the Idols to spawn a "skeleton"..

It's only one level so far, with no sound, and pretty basic (horrible) graphics.

There are a few small bugs with the AI as well, but nothing that breaks it (that I know of...)

UPDATE: I've fixed the graphics glitches in the Web Version, and "Ported" it to that platform! Pesky Rogues, now with More Accessibility!

Ratings

Coolness 100% 1
Overall 2.17 720
Audio 1.31 588
Fun 1.83 729
Graphics 1.41 758
Humor 1.57 675
Innovation 2.43 567
Mood 1.80 717
Theme 2.83 525

Feedback

Gemberkoekje
17. Dec 2012 路 09:02 UTC
This game is somewhat confusing. Also, the help text in the beginning disappears WAY too fast.

- I like the basic idea of spawning minions.
- I think you could've done better on how the level looks, as you did do the UI elements pretty well.
- Could use a bit more help on what exactly you're doing, and a spawn bar between when you've clicked and when the skeleton appears.
- Some different minions would've been nice.

Oh, for the record, I'm just a whiner, my game wasn't all that much better :P I do see potential, I hope you can improve it and make it more fun, because I do like the idea.
CMaster
17. Dec 2012 路 09:45 UTC
Neat idea. Lacks there being much to do though, other than spam Skels whenever magic is up.
馃帳 CoffeeOnimal
17. Dec 2012 路 12:13 UTC
@Gemberkoekje - I wanted to do more with the level design and the sprites, and had ideas for more enemies, but ran out of time. I think I'll continue playing with it. Forgot to put in the spawn bar on the idols, thanks for reminding me. Post compo version..
@Cmaster - Thanks. Now that I've had a chance to look at it a bit more, I think the Hero needs a bit of strategic retreat in his AI repertoire. Attack balancing would help as well.

Thanks for playing, and I appreciate your comments!
pl0xz0rz
17. Dec 2012 路 12:27 UTC
Not a good game. Nothing to do, you're idle for 99% time, and no planning. Just spam skeles, and they will kill the hero.
Prelucid
17. Dec 2012 路 12:31 UTC
Thanks for making a Mac game that installs easily. Managed to figure out the game without reading the instructions, pretty straight forward.
GFM
17. Dec 2012 路 12:45 UTC
I know the rogue-like games are usually slow paced (since they are usually turn-based =X), but I found your game too slow...

Nice idea, though!
馃帳 CoffeeOnimal
17. Dec 2012 路 12:46 UTC
@Prelucid - I wanted a web version, but ran into issues at submission time; lesson for #26.. Thanks for playing!
zenmumbler
17. Dec 2012 路 13:30 UTC
Help text is gone too quickly and the delay between clicking on a totem and the minion appearing is long enough the question wether anything happened.
A faster pace would have improved this quite a bit I think. Frantic searching, spawning and fighting is better than waiting for orbs well, waiting.
This is gentleman's combat, where people take their turns .
Also, my skeletons have been hacking in on the hero for a while now and his HP remains at near death. FOUL PLAY I SAY!
TuxedoFish
17. Dec 2012 路 13:57 UTC
Yeh this game could have used a bit more polishing. But you probably have your own reason for it. However what was good about this game is that you took an orignal spin on the theme and went with it and the mechanic works and is fully implemented and if you had nice artwork and sounds ect. i could see this as a really good game.
ParaPup
17. Dec 2012 路 14:17 UTC
Seemed to be unplayable for me, Nice design though.
lorancou
17. Dec 2012 路 14:22 UTC
Quite nice, just took me a while to figure out what those discs were but then I had some fun cornering that pesky rogue. Nice job!
Crowbeak
18. Dec 2012 路 02:03 UTC
Nice concept. Lots of potential, with further development.
NukeTheBunnys
18. Dec 2012 路 03:48 UTC
If you made it in unity is there any reason you didn't post a web version?
I would try and make it clearer how much heath the hero has
馃帳 CoffeeOnimal
18. Dec 2012 路 05:01 UTC
@NukeTheBunnys - Yes, I had a glitch in the graphics that meant the load screens wouldn't work. I've learned it had to do with some settings that were wrong with the NGUI cameras and I'm working on fixing those right now.
chrismwaite
18. Dec 2012 路 13:37 UTC
The starting text disappears a little quickly. Nice concept though. The disco balls seemed to get a little stuck for me and the hero has way too much health. Shame you didn't have a little longer on it.
Crimsoneer
18. Dec 2012 路 16:35 UTC
Interesting concept, but needs a lot more work!
kannas
18. Dec 2012 路 17:21 UTC
Did you maybe have my same problem? got an hard time on the code part and left withut time for all the rest? if so, i understand you. even so it' s a good work :D
StoneMonkeyStudios
18. Dec 2012 路 18:38 UTC
Needs more spells, but it is a good start! If you expand upon this, I would recommend giving the player more options for spells/ abilities (more creatures to spawn for different mana amounts and possibly some standalone spells).
Dark Acre Jack
20. Dec 2012 路 00:00 UTC
Pretty cool little ultra-stripped-down Dungeon Keeper. My minions were useless, though. I might have gone for a bit of an easier level progression.
Arakade
20. Dec 2012 路 01:27 UTC
Love the concept but fear the sprites are somewhat corrupted (perhaps that's thematic ;-) ). Sad that nothing happened when I killed the Rogue :-( (but it was fun enough that I played all the way through :-) ) I didn't get any audio (but that might just be my laptop so haven't rated for that) but some clash of swords and clatter of collapsing skeletons would really make this!
I note you're using Unity + NGUI. I used Unity + 2D Toolkit. How do you find NGUI (generally + for this sort of thing)?
p.s. I've fixed my game since your review <nudge, nudge> :-D
azurenimbus
20. Dec 2012 路 01:32 UTC
There are some REALLY interesting ideas going on here. I really liked the possibilities and implications of this game. I think because it is in a really rough state it's a bit difficult to know how far you could take this, but I would invest in it and further develop it. Not just presentation, but gameplay itself, as well as level design.

A diamond in the rough in my eyes. Good job!
馃帳 CoffeeOnimal
20. Dec 2012 路 07:53 UTC
@Arakade: checked out your re-submit. NGUI is good for menus and for the slider/health bars. It's a big package and can be a bit fiddly if you don't get the settings right, but it makes life so easy for HUDs and interfaces.
@Azurenimbus: Thanks! I will work on this one further, the reception thus far has been great. I'm playing around with a level editor as well, plus more enemies to spawn.
@StoneMonkeyStudios: I like the idea of other spells, that's something I'll think about while upgrading everything.

To everyone that's played, thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to look at it, and those who've commented thank you for your input.
Mezzomatto
21. Dec 2012 路 01:45 UTC
Nice start. Bit easy and sometimes unclear what is happening in combat (multiple attackers). Otherwise quite cool.
Madball
23. Dec 2012 路 13:15 UTC
It was very easy. Spawn coldown was much less than the time to kill a minion, in the end I just surronded the hero.
The minions are somewhat stupid. I summoned them when the hero was fighting a skeleton on the way to the finish, and during the whole fight they did nothing, even the one that was in the near room.
galman
23. Dec 2012 路 13:24 UTC
Nice idea.. If your game would be faster with more gameplay it could be great :)
馃帳 CoffeeOnimal
23. Dec 2012 路 13:26 UTC
@Madball: I didn't playtest before finishing, so the Skele-spam method makes it all fall apart very quickly.
The AI was my chief PITA, and ended up being a much bigger time-sink than I expected, so in the end I pared it down to what it is right now. As a result, they do some really weird things, like sitting around doing nothing. I'm not sure if that qualifies as a "bug" that I can fix per compo rules, but I'm not going to worry about it too much and just proceed with the post-compo version.
Thanks for playing!
Mista Koo
23. Dec 2012 路 14:45 UTC
Great concept, I could totally see it expanded into a great full game. Also the core mechanics are inseparable from the theme.

Well done :)
Mista Koo
23. Dec 2012 路 14:47 UTC
Forgot to say the first time I played it the player got stuck on the idol in the final room after beating a skeleton.
馃帳 CoffeeOnimal
23. Dec 2012 路 14:58 UTC
@Mista Koo: Yes, I've found that one myself. I knew that AI hack was going to come back and bite me. Working on fixing it in the Post-Compo version, thanks for the feedback.
Mesene
23. Dec 2012 路 16:09 UTC
I think unity isn't the best choice for this kind of games, you should probably develop it faster and get more content in other platform. But it is an interesting gameplay specially for mobile devices so keep working on it :D!
TwilightFlandre
23. Dec 2012 路 18:29 UTC
This is a nice start to an interesting game. My only complaint is a lack of levels or other features. Though the concept is interesting enough to warrant some additional work for a post-compo version :D
arhpositive
23. Dec 2012 路 18:36 UTC
Reverse roguelike concept is one that I'd be interested in, this is not a bad start but needs a lot more work to evolve into a better game. For instance, a few more actions that the player can do will be a good start, such as placing traps, ranged mobs, etc.
Niavlys
23. Dec 2012 路 18:59 UTC
Well, it's unfinished, but the concept is really interesting, I like it. :)
Spelchan
28. Dec 2012 路 01:18 UTC
Clearly needs a lot more work but has potential. Big issues for me is the game seemed to stall just before the hero ran out of health. I thought the game had crashed but I was still able to scroll the map. Another problem is skeletons seemingly getting stuck and not heading towards the hero just south of them.
Zed
03. Jan 2013 路 11:11 UTC
Really nice idea, but it's a bit too easy to just trap the hero in a corridor and keep spawning skeletons nearby. I could see this being a fully-fledged thing, though.