{"author_link":"\/author\/arhpositive\/","author_name":"arhpositive","author_uid":"11575","comments":[{"author_name":"TechXSoftware","author_uid":"92171","time":"Apr 18, 2016 @ 2:56am","epoch":1460947860,"text":"I like the game, but in real life getting the amount of colours for the and matching with shapes is a bit too much. may don't worry about the colours."},{"author_name":"MrDave","author_uid":"49905","time":"Apr 18, 2016 @ 10:46am","epoch":1460976060,"text":"As a massive fan of board games I spent quite a long time going through the rules though I will admit I didn&rsquo;t get out a playing board and try the game out. \r<br\/>\r<br\/>I thought the game was very clever and you have obviously put a lot of thought into it. The manual was very well written with good use of images and examples. \r<br\/>\r<br\/>Some of the movement mechanics I liked a lot, it seems like the kind of game that would be easy to learn if someone showed you. \r<br\/> \r<br\/>(also I liked your use of the Cosmic Encounter tokens)"},{"author_name":"FenyesJ","author_uid":"89477","time":"Apr 18, 2016 @ 12:41pm","epoch":1460982960,"text":"10\/10"},{"author_name":"JoeManaco","author_uid":"6837","time":"Apr 18, 2016 @ 12:51pm","epoch":1460983560,"text":"Wow! Haven't played it but very cool to see real board games on Ludum Dare. Will definitely try this out with my family next weekend!"},{"author_name":"hugheth","author_uid":"92353","time":"Apr 18, 2016 @ 1:31pm","epoch":1460985960,"text":"Hi arhpositive,\r<br\/>\r<br\/>While not able to play it yet, I've made a couple board games before, and I really like the way this has come together. It is clear from the rules that you've thought a lot about the balance of the game, which puts you above a lot of coded games given the time available. While I agree that the lack of piece removal could potentially be frustrating, there are a lot of 2 player games which handle this well (e.g. Hive), so I am confident that a stalemate could be resolved by experienced players.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>I've bookmarked this to try at home :)"},{"author_name":"CryoGenesis","author_uid":"14720","time":"Apr 19, 2016 @ 3:04pm","epoch":1461077940,"text":"First board game I've seen on LD, very cool"},{"author_name":"Geckoo1337","author_uid":"35835","time":"Apr 19, 2016 @ 4:07pm","epoch":1461081720,"text":"It's not the first board game that I have seen for a LD session, but yours is really funny. Interesting concept and a good idea. I like the initiative. I would like to see a party in live. Would you do a video? I want more ++"},{"author_name":"arhpositive","author_uid":"11575","time":"Apr 19, 2016 @ 6:03pm","epoch":1461088680,"text":"@FenyesJ, @CryoGenesis: thanks for leaving a comment, I have returned the favor. :)\r<br\/>\r<br\/>@TechXSoftware: Alternatively, you can represent two sides with white and black colors but you have to use 3 pieces each of 5 different shapes for both colors. Still, I understand that it's a lot of work to find 30 suitable tokens to play the game.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>@MrDave: It is easy to learn when I taught it to my friends, but some of the movement rules were still fiddly according to them. I've learned that a rulebook is very hard to write, especially if English is not your native language. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>@JoeManaco: If you try the game, please write another comment on how it plays. Someone learning this game with the rulebook and playing a proper game would be a landmark achievement for me. :)\r<br\/>\r<br\/>@hugheth: Thank you for your kind comments. I think I need to play this game a lot more before I can see if stalemates are a problem. If you can try it at home, leave another comment below. These are really precious to me.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>@Geckoo1337: A video is a wonderful idea. I don't have equipment to tape a good video, but I'm thinking about using a software to simulate the game on screen and I might put up a video playing against myself in my computer. However, this is not a promise.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Everyone, thank you so much. I've played all of your games and left a comment on your game pages. I'm hoping for more comments from the people who vote my game. Currently I'm at 7 comments with 13 votes and I don't think the 6 votes who are silent have played the game either. :)"},{"author_name":"tanis","author_uid":"48604","time":"Apr 19, 2016 @ 7:26pm","epoch":1461093660,"text":"That's the first time I see a board game there. Grats on pulling that out.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>I must admit that I didn't go through to actually playing it but the rules denote that you spent a lot of time into making this."},{"author_name":"Mekuri","author_uid":"20130","time":"Apr 19, 2016 @ 7:35pm","epoch":1461094200,"text":"I've heard about board games for Ludum Dare, but this is the first I've seen in the 10 Ludum Dares I've done.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Sadly I do not have the &quot;hardware&quot; at home to play it, but I did read through your rules, and tried to explain some of the rules to the Mrs, mainly to get a better idea of it myself (Learning by explaining other people works quite well for me)\r<br\/>I'd love to see a video of your game being played, to really see it at work.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>I am very intrigued by this concept! Good job."},{"author_name":"Hankenstien","author_uid":"80263","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 1:43am","epoch":1461116280,"text":"It looks interesting and will be trying it out this weekend"},{"author_name":"arhpositive","author_uid":"11575","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 9:52am","epoch":1461145620,"text":"I've now uploaded a video of the gameplay of Ejderhalar! You can find it in the Links section above!\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Without reading the rules, it might be hard to understand what's going on. But you should be able to figure out if the game is something you might be interested in.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Have fun and leave a comment here if you watch the video. :)"},{"author_name":"dunin","author_uid":"32902","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 10:46am","epoch":1461148860,"text":"Just seen the video but it seems really cool game.\r<br\/>Love board game, and I will try it and come back to rate, promised."},{"author_name":"Mantlair","author_uid":"49861","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 11:08am","epoch":1461150180,"text":"This comment will be in Turkish.\r<br\/>\u015eu an okudu\u011fum kadar\u0131yla e\u011flenceliye benziyor. Ekipman bulabildi\u011fim zaman arkada\u015flar\u0131mla beraber denemeyi planl\u0131yoruz."},{"author_name":"pythong","author_uid":"717","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 3:13pm","epoch":1461164880,"text":"thanks for making the explanatio video. it would have been quite annoying to real the docs\r<br\/>i somehow get the feeling though that the starting playing is having an advantage"},{"author_name":"timtipgames","author_uid":"15341","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 6:10pm","epoch":1461175500,"text":"I read the rules and got really interested in trying the game. So I got all the stuff together to actually play it (found all I needed in some other board games that I have). I had to play against myself though which is probably a bad thing. I imagine figuring out the rules with someone else is much less error prone as you can correct each other all the time.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>I failed horribly because I wasn't able to internalize the rules (partly because my cats where jumping my bag while I was sitting on the floor, partly because I had a sip of scotch during the gameplay and partly because there was more to remember than I thought when I read the rules for the first time. But I mainly blame my cats!).\r<br\/>\r<br\/>I turned my cam on and filmed everything that I did, completely uncensored (it's just the board guys, no jumping cats seen in the vid) and uploaded it to youtube so you can watch it Arhan. In my experience watching someone failing to play your game teaches you much more than someone being super good at it.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>I would like to mention that I intentionally did NOT watch your youtube video before I started recording (I still haven't, will do in a sec and will probably be enlightened and realize all the things I got wrong :D)\r<br\/>I hope you find this helpful and it will make up for not being able to see other LD participants play your game (I can at least see someone play mine on twitch.tv).\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Going to watch your vid now and hopefully will play the game again with a friend later today. Also still have to rate it when I did that.\r<br\/>Here is the video: https:\/\/youtu.be\/LKIGDYPYx6s :)"},{"author_name":"Kiwiboi","author_uid":"20891","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 8:54pm","epoch":1461185340,"text":"A boardgame on here, unique, I like it! :) Haven't tried it though so no real rating from me.. but kudos!"},{"author_name":"arhpositive","author_uid":"11575","time":"Apr 20, 2016 @ 11:15pm","epoch":1461193800,"text":"Everyone, thank you for your kind comments. Do return and comment again if you find the time to play the game. :)\r<br\/>\r<br\/>@timtipgames: You've done an amazing thing and thanks a lot for this. In your video, the first game gets the rules about movement correct, while on the second game you do lots of mistakes. Still, this has been very insightful for me and I was able to tweak the rulebook slightly to make it v1.3 thanks to your contributions."},{"author_name":"NarwhalMan53","author_uid":"93566","time":"Apr 21, 2016 @ 3:10am","epoch":1461207900,"text":"I just got around to playing it with another person, and I have to say I really enjoyed it. It felt like there was a lot of depth in a seemingly simple concept, which led to a fun, easy to pick up, concept. It did definitely feel like we kept trading the same blows over and over again, but it eventually worked itself out. I really enjoyed it, and I'll definitely keep my pieces around to play more. Nice job!"},{"author_name":"arhpositive","author_uid":"11575","time":"Apr 21, 2016 @ 7:07am","epoch":1461222120,"text":"@NarwhalMan53 thanks! if you have any suggestions, i'd love to hear them."},{"author_name":"Mantlair","author_uid":"49861","time":"Apr 21, 2016 @ 5:40pm","epoch":1461260100,"text":"It's great and much much more balanced than I expected. Really enjoyed trying the game with my friend. B)\r<br\/>\r<br\/>5-6 el kadar oynad\u0131k. \u0130lk oyunda kurallar tam oturmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ama sonras\u0131nda baya\u011f\u0131 &ccedil;eki\u015fmeli\/dengeli ilerledi oyun. Direkt olarak bunu test etmedik ama ba\u015flang\u0131&ccedil; oyuncusu (Kurallar pdf'indeki kare oyuncu olsun.) 4f kontrol noktas\u0131na y&ouml;nelik agresif hamleler yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131nda durdurmas\u0131 zorlay\u0131c\u0131 oluyor. En az\u0131ndan benim savunma odakl\u0131 oyun tarz\u0131m i&ccedil;in &ouml;yle oldu. &Ccedil;&ouml;z&uuml;m &ccedil;ok basit bir \u015fekilde savunmay\u0131 denemek yerine simetri\u011findeki noktaya y&ouml;nelmek olabilir. Baya\u011f\u0131 sard\u0131 gibi bizi oyun B) Tekrar geri d&ouml;n&uuml;\u015f yapar\u0131m e\u011fer farkl\u0131 bir\u015feyler ke\u015ffedersek.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Bir de itme hamlesini yaparken di\u011fer (Hamleye dahil olmayan.) ejderhalar\u0131 duvarlar ile &ouml;zde\u015f kabul ettik. Dikkatimden ka&ccedil;mad\u0131ysa e\u011fer, o durum &ouml;zel olarak belirtilmemi\u015f a&ccedil;\u0131klamalarda. Farkl\u0131 bir \u015fey uygulan\u0131yorsa onu da sormu\u015f olay\u0131m."},{"author_name":"arhpositive","author_uid":"11575","time":"Apr 21, 2016 @ 7:25pm","epoch":1461266400,"text":"@Mantlair (Turkish):\r<br\/>\r<br\/>&Ccedil;ok te\u015fekk&uuml;rler yorumlar\u0131n i&ccedil;in. Kurallara g&ouml;re ba\u015flang\u0131&ccedil; oyuncusu, ilk turda tek bir hareket yapabiliyor. Daha sonra herkes iki\u015fer hareket ile turlara devam ediyor. Oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131m oyunlarda ba\u015flang\u0131&ccedil; oyuncusuna y&ouml;nelik &ccedil;ok b&uuml;y&uuml;k bir avantaj hissetmedim, ama oynan\u0131\u015f tarz\u0131n\u0131za g&ouml;re bu durum de\u011fi\u015febilir tabii.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>Senin de d&uuml;\u015f&uuml;nd&uuml;\u011f&uuml;n gibi, en az\u0131ndan en yak\u0131n &uuml;&ccedil; kare i&ccedil;in kabaca bir tehdit olu\u015fturmak &ouml;nemli &ccedil;&uuml;nk&uuml; rakip sizin galibiyete yak\u0131n oldu\u011funuzu hissetmezse kendi plan\u0131n\u0131 daha iyi uygular hale geliyor. Her zaman bir tehdit sunarak rakibin planlar\u0131n\u0131 ertelemesini sa\u011flamak gerekiyor.\r<br\/>\r<br\/>\u0130tme esnas\u0131nda di\u011fer ta\u015flar da duvara e\u015fittir. Do\u011frudur. &Ouml;b&uuml;r t&uuml;rl&uuml; iyice kar\u0131\u015f\u0131rd\u0131 ortal\u0131k zaten. :)"},{"author_name":"marmpa","author_uid":"56456","time":"Apr 22, 2016 @ 9:59am","epoch":1461318840,"text":"Nice game but really difficult to make it happen"},{"author_name":"Strike","author_uid":"56894","time":"Apr 22, 2016 @ 12:08pm","epoch":1461326580,"text":"First time I see a board game and I must say that it's really awesome. I'll try to gather some friends to test it. But even before that, you have all my respect. Congratulations !"},{"author_name":"Jungle","author_uid":"48998","time":"Apr 22, 2016 @ 8:15pm","epoch":1461355800,"text":"Just by having made \u200b\u200ba board game already worth mentioning ! Very good your game , I liked the game concept."},{"author_name":"pixelpotions","author_uid":"63064","time":"Apr 25, 2016 @ 4:41pm","epoch":1461602160,"text":"Really congratulations for the idea and execution.\r<br\/>I will always admire this kind of entry, and mainly the idea behind those! Cool!"},{"author_name":"jonnopon3000","author_uid":"4856","time":"May 7, 2016 @ 8:56am","epoch":1462611060,"text":"Not the first time I've seen a board game entered for Ludum Dare, but it's the first that's tempted me to play. My girlfriend and I sat down (with all-paper pieces and game board) and studied your rules, and after a shaky start (as with any board game), we had a lot of fun! It's surprisingly deep for a physical game created in just a weekend - I just hope that we didn't trample all over the pronunciation of the name with our English accents :P"}],"images":["ld35\/11575-fc108043ed6c37c588cd4ba7f96d6354.jpg","ld35\/11575-92edba06ca7b30cb19a9c5203c9dc56e.jpg","ld35\/11575-96ce34d747320612a51e76bc8f96cf26.jpg","ld35\/11575-860126c05ad05245fdeb5e0e7b96a7e1.jpg"],"links":[{"url":"https:\/\/drive.google.com\/open?id=0Bz7XaFIGEZUneUpZcVhzei1rbkU","text":"Rules v1.5 (Google Docs)"},{"url":"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8088jwXlTZk","text":"Gameplay Video (New!)"},{"url":"https:\/\/drive.google.com\/open?id=0Bz7XaFIGEZUnTkJ1VHFveTN0Ym8","text":"T&uuml;rk&ccedil;e Kurallar v2.0 (Google Docs)"}],"metadata":{"g_key":"3897","g_author":"11575","g_event":"LD35","g_eventkey":"33","g_subevent":"COMPO","g_urlkey":"3903","g_title":"Ejderhalar","g_status":"UCHK1","g_place":"409","g_commentcount":"27","g_site2_node_id":"0","g_hide":"N","g_has_icon":"Y","g_rqueue":"0","g_random":"0"},"nds":[],"node":null,"orig_images":["http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/542293\/11575-shot0-1460930529.jpg-eq-900-500.jpg","http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/542293\/11575-shot1-1460930529.jpg-eq-900-500.jpg","http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/542293\/11575-shot2-1460930529.jpg-eq-900-500.jpg","http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/compo2\/\/542293\/11575-shot3-1461174573.jpg-eq-900-500.jpg"],"text":"\"Ejderhalar\" means \"Dragons\" in Turkish.\r\n\r\nIn this ancient dance of the dragons, both players alter the shape and size of the five beasts they control and strike the opposing dragons with well timed attacks in order to take over the battlefield.\r\n\r\nThis is an abstract, zero luck, perfect information area control board game for 2 players. Each player controls 5 dragons which can stand up in one square or crawl all over three squares of the game board. It is critical to use your dragons' bodies to push enemy pieces off critical regions of the board, only to capture these regions yourself and win the game.\r\n\r\nWhat you would need to play it:\r\n* A chess board\r\n* 4 markers for neutral control points\r\n* 3 pieces each of 5 different colors of tokens for both players\r\n- Player sides can be differentiated by the shape (rectangles vs circles) or the size (small pieces vs large pieces) of tokens.\r\n- You can always make some temporary tokens with some paper and a few color pencils, then draw a 8x8 grid on a piece of paper to play the game. You can find one example on the 4th picture.\r\n\r\nThis is my first board game design attempt. It was a tough challenge and I believe it worked out pretty well. I playtested this game for a total of 6 games with 2 different opponents. Also, I played it against myself for 10 times or so. Games tend to last between 10 and 40 minutes.\r\n\r\nThere is no option to capture an enemy piece and the game end condition is \"take control over a certain number of squares on the board\", therefore there's a good chance that a game between two experienced players goes on forever. I've not had the chance to find a fix for this problem.\r\n\r\nI know it's hard to come up with the energy to test a game jam board game, but I'd really appreciate it if you can play it at least once with a real opponent. Even if you are not able to play it, please write a comment on how you feel about the game. I promise a \"play, rate and comment\" in return for every comment below.\r\n\r\nThanks for trying Ejderhalar.\r\n\r\nArhan Bakan\r\nTwitter - @arhanbakan\r\nhttps:\/\/arhpositive.itch.io\/\r\nhttps:\/\/arhanbakan.wordpress.com\/\r\n\r\nEdit - v1.1: \"Target square\" has a much better explanation. No rules were changed.\r\nEdit - v1.2: Turkish rules were added and some tweaks were made to the English version to make some rules clearer.\r\nEdit - v1.3: Improved wording on movement examples. Movement and target square concepts connect to each other much better now.\r\n\r\nEdit - Gameplay Video Added! You should check out the video link to have an idea of how Ejderhalar plays out. It's a demo where I'm playing against myself just to show a couple of examples of how the game progresses. Don't forget to leave a comment after you watch the video! Thanks!","title":"Ejderhalar"}