{"author_name":"pythong","cat":"LD #16 - Exploration - 2009","comments":[{"author_name":"Maple","time":"December 15, 2009 3:25 am","epoch":1260865500,"text":"You&#8217;ve made the new graphics super bad so people will just say to stick with the old ones \ud83d\ude1b well, i dont know what the rules are on that; this is my first LD. But if i find out i&#8217;ll be sure to let you know.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 3:27 am","epoch":1260865620,"text":"I guess technically that wasn&#8217;t allowed but I don&#8217;t really see a big problem here. I think the rule is there to avoid some real problems with fonts that contain very detailed graphics. Anyway that&#8217;s just my opinion.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"pythong","time":"December 15, 2009 3:40 am","epoch":1260866400,"text":"Making the graphics worse was really intentional. Mea culpa, mea culpa, and if I would make the graphics better, that would be even worse than having the wingdings :).","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 4:34 am","epoch":1260869640,"text":"My vote: definitely keep your entry in, and it doesn&#8217;t bother me if you stick with the old graphics.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 5:01 am","epoch":1260871260,"text":"My take:","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 5:03 am","epoch":1260871380,"text":"Oh, by the way, yes, there&#8217;s a bit on the wiki saying roguelikes are allowed, but I think that&#8217;s inconsistent with the idea of not using &#8220;found art&#8221; in font form. Better to broaden the scope a bit. In any case, you still can&#8217;t use public-domain fonts (since they would count as public-domain art) which aren&#8217;t on the target system already, so I think it&#8217;s not too exploitable to allow wingdings.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"Maple","time":"December 15, 2009 5:16 am","epoch":1260872160,"text":"^^Good thing i made my own font \ud83d\ude1b","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"pythong","time":"December 15, 2009 5:26 am","epoch":1260872760,"text":"thank you for your many comments. so at least for now, I have the version with the changed graphics as an .app available as well","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"samel","time":"December 15, 2009 7:05 am","epoch":1260878700,"text":"For me it&#8217;s ok to change the gfx the way YOU like 8)<br \/>\n IMHO we are here to enjoy and have fun!!","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 9:17 am","epoch":1260886620,"text":"Dude, I didn&#8217;t know it&#8217;s not allowed to use any font from the OS. I mean&#8230; it&#8217;s a font. You can&#8217;t expect to draw a font in 48 hours manually.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"Maple","time":"December 15, 2009 9:34 am","epoch":1260887640,"text":"Meh. Well im not claiming to have done it within the 48hours (although it DID only take about 10 mins to do the characters i used while i was making the font) but i&#8217;m just saying no-one can say i didnt make my own font \ud83d\ude00","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 11:41 am","epoch":1260895260,"text":"KungPhoo:  the rules call out the fonts with graphics in them specifically,<br \/>\n &#8220;Fonts are allowed. You&#8217;re free to use any font you&#8217;re legally entitled to. Fonts are meant for text output, not as base for graphics (so you can&#8217;t get around the &#8216;no clipart&#8217; part by using windings\/webdings\/dingbats and whatnot). &#8221;<br \/>\n So it&#8217;s not that all fonts from the OS are disallowed.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 12:27 pm","epoch":1260898020,"text":"I wouldn&#8217;t worry about it, and I&#8217;d think changing it now is worse than leaving it.  But don&#8217;t use wingdings in the future!  Seems like a pretty minor thing since wingdings isn&#8217;t exactly high art, not much better than the classic roguelike of just using letters.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"December 15, 2009 3:44 pm","epoch":1260909840,"text":"I personally think it&#8217;s inconsistent to disallow public-domain clipart and allow public-domain fonts, but *shrug* if it works for people, it&#8217;s cool. I actually was quite careful to only use fonts from the OS for that reason.","spam":"N"}],"epoch":1260864600,"likes":0,"metadata":{"p_key":"71728","p_author":"pythong","p_authorkey":"717","p_urlkey":"107550","p_title":"Important question","p_cat":"LD #16 - Exploration - 2009","p_event":"LD16","p_time":"1260864600","p_likes":"0","p_comments":"14","p_status":"UPD5","us_key":"717","us_name":"pythong","us_username":"pythong","event_start":"1260489600","event_key":"2","event_name":"LD16"},"text":"<p>I have the following question: unfortunately I used Wingdings as enemy graphics, and those are not allowed in the rules. I didn&#8217;t know about that, but that also means that I disqualified myself.<\/p>\n <p>Question: is it still ok to change the graphics now? I don&#8217;t want to be a spoilsport, so I have these to offer, intentionally making them worse to indicate that<\/p>\n <div id=\"attachment_14266\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img class=\"size-medium wp-image-14266\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/enemies1-300x35.png\" alt=\"Old graphics\" width=\"300\" height=\"35\" srcset=\"http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/enemies1-300x35.png 300w, http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/enemies1-550x64.png 550w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Old graphics<\/p><\/div>\n <div id=\"attachment_14264\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img class=\"size-medium wp-image-14264\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/enemies-300x35.png\" alt=\"enemies\" width=\"300\" height=\"35\" srcset=\"http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/enemies-300x35.png 300w, http:\/\/ludumdare.com\/compo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/enemies-550x64.png 550w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">new graphics<\/p><\/div>\n <p>So do you think this is ok? Elsewise I will take back my entry by also deleting the links<\/p>\n <p>pythong<\/p>","time":"December 15th, 2009 3:10 am","title":"Important question"}